← All episodes

Aug 17, 2026

Can Medicine Survive Without AI?

Dr. Bertalan Meskó, The Medical Futurist

Can Medicine Survive Without AI? cover
1 hr 9 min
Watch on YouTube Spotify Apple Podcasts

Show notes

Dr. Bertalan Meskó — The Medical Futurist — argues that AI in medicine was never a choice. It's arithmetic.

The world is short roughly 6 million healthcare workers today, and the WHO projects 11 million by 2030. About a billion people have zero access to care. We will never train our way out of that gap. "It's not a choice. It's a must," Berci says — because without AI, "we will not be able to keep on providing healthcare."

He'd know how fast this is moving: in 2020 his team combed the FDA database and found 64 cleared AI-based medical technologies. Today there are nearly 1,500, and the number will pass 2,000 soon. Meanwhile a billion people wear a sensor tracking a vital sign, and of the ~1.5 billion who've used a large language model, most have asked it something about their health.

Which brings us to the line that reframes everything: the era of Dr. Google is over, and we now live in the Dr. AI era. Patients no longer just arrive with information — they arrive with clinical reasoning. "Physicians used to be the key holders to the ivory tower of medicine. But there is no tower anymore. There is no gate. There is no key."

We also get into why a professional futurist refuses to make predictions, why he's trained with a chess coach for eight years just to share a language with AI, what three months as one of the most-tested humans alive actually taught him — and his own technological sublime moment, when he stopped asking AI for answers and started asking: what am I missing?

His answer to that, nine times out of ten, is something he'd genuinely missed.

TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 "As a futurist, I expect AI to replace me in 10 years"
00:51 What AI actually changes in medicine
01:37 The math: 11 million missing health workers by 2030
07:18 From 64 FDA-cleared AI tools to nearly 1,500
10:15 Dr. Google is over. This is the Dr. AI era.
14:42 The baseline test his insurance wouldn't run
18:09 Healthcare goes global — your country matters less
22:20 The evidence gate every AI tool has to pass
26:32 Sponsor — Zapier
28:56 Why a professional futurist refuses to predict
44:12 The technological sublime: "What am I missing?"
48:48 Sponsor — Reach
49:23 Eight years of chess to speak AI's language
1:02:23 300 blood markers, and why longevity is a map

EPISODE LINKS:
The Medical Futurist: https://medicalfuturist.com
Dr. Meskó on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/berci
The Medical Futurist on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MedicalFuturist

Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:

Zapier — build your own AI agent with the ChatGPT integration:
https://bit.ly/4bR1zLr

Reach — see any college's real admissions odds for your student's GPA and test score, free:
https://highschoolreach.com/yt

PODCAST INFO:
- Podcast website: https://nickstandlea.com
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nick-standlea-podcast/id1700331903
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0YqBBneFsKtQ6Y0ArP5CXJ

SUPPORT & CONNECT:
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nickstandlea/
- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nickstandlea
- X: https://x.com/nickstandlea

Ask questions. Don't accept the status quo. Be curious.

#AI #MedicalFuturist #BertalanMesko #HealthTech #AIinMedicine #Longevity #NickStandleaShow

The AI bookshelf

Books we keep recommending for going deeper on the ideas in this conversation.

Co-Intelligence — Ethan Mollick

The practical playbook for working and living with AI, from Wharton's favorite professor.

View on Amazon →

If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies — Yudkowsky & Soares

The case for taking superhuman AI seriously — co-written by show guest Nate Soares.

View on Amazon →

The Coming Wave — Mustafa Suleyman

DeepMind's co-founder on the decade when AI and biotech reshape everything.

View on Amazon →

Nexus — Yuval Noah Harari

A sweeping history of information networks, from stone tablets to AI.

View on Amazon →

These Strange New Minds — Christopher Summerfield

How AI learned to talk, and what it means — from the Oxford neuroscientist and show guest.

View on Amazon →

The gear behind the show

As an Amazon Associate, The Nick Standlea Show earns from qualifying purchases.

Shure SM7B Microphone

The broadcast dynamic mic behind the show's vocal sound.

View on Amazon →

RODECaster Pro II

All-in-one podcast production console for mixing and recording.

View on Amazon →

Aputure Amaran Studio Light

Soft, controllable lighting for the interview setup.

View on Amazon →

Cloudlifter CL-1

Inline preamp that gives the SM7B clean, quiet gain.

View on Amazon →

RODE PSA1+ Boom Arm

Studio boom arm that keeps the mic in frame and off the desk.

View on Amazon →

Sony Alpha Mirrorless Camera

The mirrorless camera body used to film episodes.

View on Amazon →

Sony MDR-7506 Headphones

The studio-standard monitoring headphones.

View on Amazon →

Elgato Stream Deck

Programmable control pad for running the show.

View on Amazon →
Listen on Spotify →

Share & spread the word

Field Notes

The sharpest idea from every conversation.

A short dispatch for people who'd rather understand than scroll — one big idea from each guest, distilled. Free, most weeks. Unsubscribe anytime.