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SAT and ACT scores beat high school grades at predicting success across nine UC colleges

A guide to Nick Standlea's case that SAT and ACT scores predict college success better than grades. He draws on Forbes and New York Times reports and says scores still shape who gets in and who gets aid.

Episode published 2024-01-29 · 20:04 · listen to the episode

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Test scores were better than high school grades at predicting student success across the University of California's nine colleges, says a 2020 faculty review that Nick Standlea cites on The Nick Standlea Show. That system has more than 230,000 undergraduates. The episode is called "The Importance of SAT and ACT in College Admissions." In it, Nick reads from Forbes and New York Times reports. He argues that the SAT and ACT are fairer than many people think. He points to an Opportunity Insights study of the Ivy Plus colleges. It found little link between high school GPA and how students did in college. But it found a strong link between test scores and later success. Nick says college leaders know this research but fear the political backlash. He adds that going test-optional brings in as many as 50,000 extra applications a year. For families, his advice is plain. At Boston College, he says, the admit rate is 9.5% without a score and 27% with one. He also says students who skip the test are much more likely to pay full sticker price. In his reading, merit awards of $25,000 to over $100,000 across four years tend to go to strong scorers. Nick owns Test Prep Gurus, the episode's sponsor, and he says so. He admits paid prep raises scores. But he argues that essays, activities and private school help give rich students a bigger edge than the test does.

Step by step

  1. Grades no longer tell colleges enough ▶0:00

    Nick opens with a passage from the Forbes and New York Times reports. It says test scores are more reliable than high school grades. One reason is that grades have gone up in recent years. Without scores, the passage says, colleges have a hard time telling who will do well and who will struggle. Nick then quotes two college leaders. Brown's president, Christina Paxson, says test scores are a much better predictor of academic success than high school grades. MIT's dean of admissions, Stuart Schmill, brought back the test rule. He says straight A's alone are not enough to know if a student will succeed.

  2. Two large studies point the same way ▶2:00

    Nick reads the New York Times summary of a study by a group called Opportunity Insights. It looked at the Ivy Plus colleges. Those are the eight Ivy League schools plus Duke, MIT, Stanford and the University of Chicago. The study found little link between high school GPA and success in college. But it found a strong link between SAT and ACT scores and later success. Nick then cites a University of California faculty review. It was led by Henry Sanchez, a doctor who studies disease, and Eddie Kamo, a professor of education. In 2020 it found that test scores beat high school grades at predicting success across the system's nine colleges. Those colleges enroll more than 230,000 undergraduates. The edge of test scores has grown over time, the group found.

  3. College leaders know the research ▶4:00

    Nick quotes John Friedman, who studies economics. Friedman says test scores have vastly more predictive power than most people think. Then Nick reads what he calls the most interesting part of the New York Times article. Most college leaders said they knew about this research. Several told the writer, off the record, that they feared the political backlash on campus and in the media if they brought tests back. Georgetown's longtime admissions dean, Charles Deacon, said on the record that it is not politically correct. Nick says this helps families guess what colleges will do next.

  4. Money gives colleges a reason to stay test-optional ▶5:00

    Nick asks listeners to picture themselves as a college president. Going test-optional, he says, brings in as many as 50,000 extra applications a year. That is because students without scores are much more likely to apply. At $75 per application, he says, that could be around $3.75 million for one college. He names a second payoff too. More applications let a college turn down more students, so it looks harder to get into. That pleases alumni. And he says the data shows that leads to more gifts. His guess is that colleges will stay test-optional for these reasons. But each year they will give students with scores more of an edge.

  5. Scores already help at test-optional colleges ▶6:25

    Nick says the data backs up his guess that scores already carry weight. At Boston College, he says, the admit rate is 9.5% for students who apply without a test score. It is 27% for students who apply with one. At Notre Dame, he says, the admit rate doubles for students who send an SAT or ACT score. He says he could keep listing examples, but the pattern is clear to him. His advice to freshmen, sophomores and juniors is to treat the SAT and ACT the way students did in the past. Prepare, and do your best. That way more schools may say yes.

  6. The score affects the price, not just the admit ▶7:25

    Nick says a student can still get into a hard-to-enter college without a test score. But he warns that a student who applies without one is much more likely to pay full sticker price. He says the overall data shows that merit awards go much more often to students who send a strong score. These awards do not depend on what a family can pay. They range, he says, from $25,000 to over $100,000 across the four years a student attends. In the sponsor segment, he names examples. They include $30,000 per year at USC, $25,000 per year at Notre Dame, and a $57,000 scholarship at Texas Christian University.

  7. The fairness question ▶9:00

    Nick takes on the biggest worry about testing. Many people think it favors students who already have a head start. He reads the reports on score gaps by race and class. He also reads the fear that tests will hurt diversity now that the Supreme Court has limited affirmative action. Then he reads the finding he says should ease those fears. Within every racial group, students with higher scores do better in college. The same is true for both poorer and richer students. The study's authors also say diversity would plummet if colleges used scores alone. But almost no one wants that, Nick notes. The real question is whether a score should be one factor among many.

  8. The test is the hardest part to game with money ▶10:40

    Nick's own view is that the test predicts well because money shapes it less than the rest of the application. Rich students can pay for music lessons and travel sports. They can get heavy help on their essays. Many go to private schools where counselors polish each application. On the test, he says, a student must sit in a room alone with no one to help. He is open about his stake. He owns Test Prep Gurus. He admits that scores rise when expert teachers work with students who do the work. Still, he argues, the edge money brings elsewhere on the application is bigger.

  9. Scores can widen the door, not narrow it ▶13:25

    Nick points to MIT. Dean Stuart Schmill says scores help find strong students from less advantaged high schools. Without them, Schmill says, his team had two bad choices. They could guess and sometimes turn away qualified students. Or they could admit more students from private and well-off public schools with known records. After the test rule came back, Schmill says, MIT admitted the most diverse class in its history. A Harvard economist adds that students with high grades at little-known high schools suffer most without scores. For them, he says, the SAT is their lifeline. Nick also cites Pew Research Center polling. It shows a vast majority of Americans support using scores as one factor.

“concluded in 2020 that test scores were better than high school grades at predicting student success in the system's nine colleges, where more than 230,000 undergraduates are enrolled.”

Nick Standlea, citing the University of California faculty review, in the episode

Key moments

Questions people ask

why do colleges go test optional for sat and act

Nick Standlea says test-optional rules bring a college as many as 50,000 extra applications a year. At $75 each, he says, that could mean around $3.75 million in fees for one college. He adds that more applications let a college turn down more students and look harder to get into, which he says pleases alumni and leads to more gifts.

do sat and act scores predict college success better than gpa

According to the studies Nick cites, yes. A 2020 University of California faculty review found test scores beat high school grades at predicting success across its nine colleges. An Opportunity Insights study of the Ivy Plus colleges found a strong link between scores and later success, but little link with GPA.

does submitting a test score improve admission odds at boston college

Nick says Boston College admits 9.5% of applicants without a test score and 27% of applicants with one. He also says the admit rate doubles at Notre Dame for students who send an SAT or ACT score.

which colleges give scholarships for high sat or act scores

In the sponsor segment, Nick names $30,000 per year at USC, $25,000 per year at Notre Dame, and a $57,000 scholarship at Texas Christian University. He says merit awards tied to scores range from $25,000 to over $100,000 across four years.

can you get into a selective college without a test score

Nick says yes, you can. But he warns that students who apply without a score are much more likely to pay full sticker price. He says merit awards that do not depend on need tend to go to students with strong scores.

are the sat and act unfair to low income students

Nick argues the opposite. He cites data that within every racial group and at every income level, higher scorers do better in college. He reads MIT's dean saying scores help find strong students from less advantaged high schools, and a Harvard economist calling the SAT a lifeline for students at little-known schools.

does paid test prep raise sat scores

Nick, who owns Test Prep Gurus, says scores rise when expert teachers work with students who do the work. Even so, he argues, the edge money brings on essays, activities and school choice is bigger than the edge from prep.

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